The A.I. Jobpocalypse, Building at Anthropic with Mike Krieger and Hard Fork Crimes Division

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This week, we dive into Kevin’s recent column about how A.I. is affecting the job market for new graduates, and debate whether the job apocalypse is already here for entry-level work. Then Mike Krieger joins us to discuss the new Claude 4 model, the future of work and the online chatter over whether an A.I. system could blackmail you. And finally, it’s time to open up the case files for another round of Hard Fork Crimes Division.

Guest:

• Mike Krieger, chief product officer at Anthropic

Additional Reading:

• For Some Recent Graduates, the A.I. Job Apocalypse May Already Be Here

• Another Suspect Is Charged in Bitcoin Kidnapping and Torture Case

• Elizabeth Holmes’s Partner Has a New Blood-Testing Start-Up

Credits

“Hard Fork” is hosted by Kevin Roose and Casey Newton and produced by Rachel Cohn and Whitney Jones. This episode was edited by Matt Collette. Engineering by Chris Wood and original music by Dan Powell, Diane Wong and Rowan Niemisto. Fact-checking by Ena Alvarado. Our executive producer is Jen Poyant.

Special thanks to Paula Szuchman, Pui-Wing Tam, Dahlia Haddad and Jeffrey Miranda.