{"id":20383,"date":"2025-01-18T09:15:06","date_gmt":"2025-01-18T10:15:06","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/medexperts.pro\/?p=20383"},"modified":"2025-01-18T10:27:07","modified_gmt":"2025-01-18T10:27:07","slug":"the-interview-curtis-yarvin-says-democracy-is-done","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/medexperts.pro\/?p=20383","title":{"rendered":"\u2018The Interview\u2019: Curtis Yarvin Says Democracy is Done"},"content":{"rendered":"<div class=\"css-s99gbd StoryBodyCompanionColumn\" data-testid=\"companionColumn-0\">\n<div class=\"css-53u6y8\">\n<p class=\"css-at9mc1 evys1bk0\">For a long time, Curtis Yarvin, a 51-year-old computer engineer, has written online about political theory in relative obscurity. His ideas were pretty extreme: that institutions at the heart of American intellectual life, like the mainstream media and academia, have been overrun by progressive groupthink and need to be dissolved. He believes that government bureaucracy should be radically gutted, and perhaps most provocative, he argues that American democracy should be replaced by what he calls a \u201cmonarchy\u201d run by what he has called a \u201cC.E.O.\u201d \u2014 basically his friendlier term for a dictator. To support his arguments, Yarvin relies on what those sympathetic to his views might see as a helpful serving of historical references \u2014 and what others see as a highly distorting mix of gross oversimplification, cherry-picking and personal interpretation presented as fact.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div data-testid=\"VideoBlock-1\">\n<figure class=\"sizeMedium css-sx232s\" aria-label=\"media\" role=\"group\" data-testid=\"VideoBlock\">\n<div class=\"css-1xb94ky\">\n<div>\n<div class=\"css-n27z15\" style=\"padding-bottom:56.25%\">\n<div class=\"css-mm3pwi\">\n<div style=\"height:0\">\n<div class=\"css-vxcmzt\">\n<div class=\"css-79elbk\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"css-1cueeje\" style=\"padding-bottom:56.25%\">\n<div class=\"css-1ihorw\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"css-ew1078\">\n<div class=\"css-ptry2i\">\n<div><\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div><figcaption class=\"css-ktho12 e3rygrp0\"><span class=\"css-jevhma e13ogyst0\" data-testid=\"video-summary\">The once-fringe writer has long argued for an American monarchy. His ideas have found an audience in the incoming administration and Silicon Valley.<\/span><\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"css-s99gbd StoryBodyCompanionColumn\" data-testid=\"companionColumn-1\">\n<div class=\"css-53u6y8\">\n<p class=\"css-798hid etfikam0\"><strong class=\"css-8qgvsz ebyp5n10\">Subscribe: <\/strong><strong class=\"css-8qgvsz ebyp5n10\"><a class=\"css-yywogo\" href=\"https:\/\/podcasts.apple.com\/us\/podcast\/the-interview\/id1624946521\" title rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Apple Podcasts<\/a><\/strong><strong class=\"css-8qgvsz ebyp5n10\"> | <\/strong><strong class=\"css-8qgvsz ebyp5n10\"><a class=\"css-yywogo\" href=\"https:\/\/open.spotify.com\/show\/7cDVEBbn8tM4vCEFM4TFA2?si=ccb3bbaadb75485f\" title rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Spotify<\/a><\/strong><strong class=\"css-8qgvsz ebyp5n10\"> | <\/strong><strong class=\"css-8qgvsz ebyp5n10\"><a class=\"css-yywogo\" href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/playlist?list=PLdMrbgYfVl-s5c4ug8qDCNmdmSKPvr-Pi\" title rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">YouTube<\/a><\/strong><strong class=\"css-8qgvsz ebyp5n10\"> | <\/strong><strong class=\"css-8qgvsz ebyp5n10\"><a class=\"css-yywogo\" href=\"https:\/\/music.amazon.com\/podcasts\/3c7db6c5-3de8-4bf0-b8b4-c540dc623cb7\/the-interview\" title rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Amazon<\/a><\/strong><strong class=\"css-8qgvsz ebyp5n10\"> | <\/strong><strong class=\"css-8qgvsz ebyp5n10\"><a class=\"css-yywogo\" href=\"https:\/\/www.iheart.com\/podcast\/326-the-interview-97152890\/\" title rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">iHeart<\/a><\/strong><strong class=\"css-8qgvsz ebyp5n10\"> | <\/strong><strong class=\"css-8qgvsz ebyp5n10\"><a class=\"css-yywogo\" href=\"https:\/\/www.nytimes.com\/audio\/app\/syndicated\/audio-app-show-the-interview\" title>NYT Audio App<\/a><\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"css-at9mc1 evys1bk0\">But while Yarvin himself may still be obscure, his ideas are not. Vice President-elect JD Vance has alluded to Yarvin\u2019s notions of forcibly ridding American institutions of so-called wokeism. The incoming State Department official Michael Anton has spoken with Yarvin about how an \u201cAmerican Caesar\u201d might be installed into power. And Yarvin also has fans in the powerful, and increasingly political, ranks of Silicon Valley. Marc Andreessen, the venture capitalist turned informal adviser to President-elect Donald Trump, has approvingly cited Yarvin\u2019s anti-democratic thinking. And Peter Thiel, a conservative megadonor who invested in a tech start-up of Yarvin\u2019s, has called him a \u201cpowerful\u201d historian. Perhaps unsurprising given all this, Yarvin has become a fixture of the right-wing media universe: He has been a guest on the shows of Tucker Carlson and Charlie Kirk, among others.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-at9mc1 evys1bk0\">I\u2019ve been aware of Yarvin, who mostly makes his living on Substack, for years and was mostly interested in his work as a prime example of growing antidemocratic sentiment in particular corners of the internet. Until recently, those ideas felt fringe. But given that they are now finding an audience with some of the most powerful people in the country, Yarvin can\u2019t be so easily dismissed anymore.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div data-testid=\"Dropzone-3\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"css-s99gbd StoryBodyCompanionColumn\" data-testid=\"companionColumn-2\">\n<div class=\"css-53u6y8\">\n<p class=\"css-at9mc1 evys1bk0\"><strong class=\"css-8qgvsz ebyp5n10\">One of your central arguments is that America needs to, as you\u2019ve put it in the past, get over our dictator-phobia \u2014 that American democracy is a sham, beyond fixing, and having a monarch-style leader is the way to go. So why is democracy so bad, and why would having a dictator solve the problem? <\/strong>Let me answer that in a way that would be relatively accessible to readers of The New York Times. You\u2019ve probably heard of a man named Franklin Delano Roosevelt.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-at9mc1 evys1bk0\"><strong class=\"css-8qgvsz ebyp5n10\">Yes. <\/strong>I do a speech sometimes where I\u2019ll just read the last 10 paragraphs of F.D.R.\u2019s first inaugural address, in which he essentially says, Hey, Congress, give me absolute power, or I\u2019ll take it anyway. So did F.D.R. actually take that level of power? Yeah, he did. There\u2019s a great piece that I\u2019ve sent to some of the people that I know that are involved in the transition \u2014<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div data-testid=\"InteractiveBlock-5\">\n<section data-testid=\"inline-interactive\" id=\"mag-interview-styles-alt\" data-id=\"100000009472471\" data-source-id=\"100000009472471\" class=\"interactive-content interactive-size-scoop css-1w71maw\">\n<div class=\"css-17ih8de interactive-body\" data-sourceid=\"100000009472471\" id=\"embed-id-100000009472471\">\n<p>    <!-- birdkit: do not modify this file --><\/p>\n<div id=\"g-2024-05-16-mag-interview-styles-alt\" class=\"birdkit-body g-2024-05-16-mag-interview-styles-alt\" data-preview-slug=\"2024-05-16-mag-interview-styles-alt\" data-birdkit-hydrate=\"64fcccdddf4b11e4\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/section>\n<\/div>\n<div data-testid=\"Optimistic-6\">\n<div class=\"css-1336jj\">\n<div class=\"css-121kum4\">\n<div class=\"css-171d1bw\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"css-asuuk5\">\n<div class=\"css-7axq9l\" data-testid=\"optimistic-truncator-noscript\">\n<div data-testid=\"optimistic-truncator-noscript-message\" class=\"css-6yo1no\">\n<p class=\"css-3kpklk\">We are having trouble retrieving the article content.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-3kpklk\">Please enable JavaScript in your browser settings.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"css-1dv1kvn\" id=\"optimistic-truncator-a11y\">\n<hr \/>\n<p>Thank you for your patience while we verify access. 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His ideas were pretty extreme: that institutions at the heart of American intellectual life, like the mainstream media and academia, have been overrun by progressive groupthink and need to be dissolved. He believes that government bureaucracy should be radically gutted, and perhaps most provocative, he argues that American democracy should be replaced by what he calls a \u201cmonarchy\u201d run by what he has called a \u201cC.E.O.\u201d \u2014 basically his friendlier term for a dictator. To support his arguments, Yarvin relies on what those sympathetic to his views might see as a helpful serving of historical references \u2014 and what others see as a highly distorting mix of gross oversimplification, cherry-picking and personal interpretation presented as fact.The once-fringe writer has long argued for an American monarchy. His ideas have found an audience in the incoming administration and Silicon Valley.Subscribe: Apple Podcasts | Spotify | YouTube | Amazon | iHeart | NYT Audio AppBut while Yarvin himself may still be obscure, his ideas are not. Vice President-elect JD Vance has alluded to Yarvin\u2019s notions of forcibly ridding American institutions of so-called wokeism. The incoming State Department official Michael Anton has spoken with Yarvin about how an \u201cAmerican Caesar\u201d might be installed into power. And Yarvin also has fans in the powerful, and increasingly political, ranks of Silicon Valley. Marc Andreessen, the venture capitalist turned informal adviser to President-elect Donald Trump, has approvingly cited Yarvin\u2019s anti-democratic thinking. And Peter Thiel, a conservative megadonor who invested in a tech start-up of Yarvin\u2019s, has called him a \u201cpowerful\u201d historian. Perhaps unsurprising given all this, Yarvin has become a fixture of the right-wing media universe: He has been a guest on the shows of Tucker Carlson and Charlie Kirk, among others.I\u2019ve been aware of Yarvin, who mostly makes his living on Substack, for years and was mostly interested in his work as a prime example of growing antidemocratic sentiment in particular corners of the internet. Until recently, those ideas felt fringe. But given that they are now finding an audience with some of the most powerful people in the country, Yarvin can\u2019t be so easily dismissed anymore.One of your central arguments is that America needs to, as you\u2019ve put it in the past, get over our dictator-phobia \u2014 that American democracy is a sham, beyond fixing, and having a monarch-style leader is the way to go. So why is democracy so bad, and why would having a dictator solve the problem? Let me answer that in a way that would be relatively accessible to readers of The New York Times. You\u2019ve probably heard of a man named Franklin Delano Roosevelt.Yes. I do a speech sometimes where I\u2019ll just read the last 10 paragraphs of F.D.R.\u2019s first inaugural address, in which he essentially says, Hey, Congress, give me absolute power, or I\u2019ll take it anyway. So did F.D.R. actually take that level of power? Yeah, he did. There\u2019s a great piece that I\u2019ve sent to some of the people that I know that are involved in the transition \u2014<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":20385,"comment_status":"close","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[6],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-20383","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-technology"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/medexperts.pro\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/20383","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/medexperts.pro\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/medexperts.pro\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/medexperts.pro\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/medexperts.pro\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=20383"}],"version-history":[{"count":2,"href":"https:\/\/medexperts.pro\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/20383\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":20386,"href":"https:\/\/medexperts.pro\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/20383\/revisions\/20386"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/medexperts.pro\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/media\/20385"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/medexperts.pro\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=20383"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/medexperts.pro\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=20383"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/medexperts.pro\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=20383"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}