{"id":16631,"date":"2024-11-16T09:15:07","date_gmt":"2024-11-16T10:15:07","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/medexperts.pro\/?p=16631"},"modified":"2024-11-16T10:36:46","modified_gmt":"2024-11-16T10:36:46","slug":"the-interview-podcast-ellen-wiebe","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/medexperts.pro\/?p=16631","title":{"rendered":"\u2018The Interview\u2019 Podcast: Ellen Wiebe"},"content":{"rendered":"<div><\/div>\n<div class=\"css-s99gbd StoryBodyCompanionColumn\" data-testid=\"companionColumn-0\">\n<div class=\"css-53u6y8\">\n<p class=\"css-at9mc1 evys1bk0\">Earlier this year, my mother ended her life via medical aid in dying, also known as MAID. She had A.L.S., so she was suffering in many ways, and her choice to die in this manner felt right. Probably because it felt that way, in the time leading up to her death I didn\u2019t have many unanswered questions about MAID. I knew it was legal nationwide in Canada, where I\u2019m from and where my mom lived. (There it\u2019s called medical <em class=\"css-2fg4z9 e1gzwzxm0\">assistance <\/em>in dying, and unlike in the United States, patients can apply for it when their disease is nonterminal, as long as they have a \u201cgrievous and irremediable medical condition.\u201d) I was also aware that in the United States MAID was legal in only 10 states and the District of Columbia. That\u2019s pretty much what I knew, and that was enough.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-at9mc1 evys1bk0\">That is, until a fellow journalist friend of mine sent me an article about Ellen Wiebe, a MAID provider in British Columbia. The friend suggested that Wiebe might make a good interview subject for me. It was an astute (and somewhat provocative) idea. Wiebe, who is 72 and has also been a longtime abortion provider, has performed hundreds of MAID procedures and is one of Canada\u2019s most prominent advocates for the practice. As I looked into her more, I realized that, actually, I did have questions \u2014 medical, legal and philosophical \u2014 about when doctors help people to die, and also about how MAID might shape our thinking on what, exactly, constitutes a good death.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div data-testid=\"AudioBlock-1\">\n<figure class=\"margins-h css-1nhp71k\"><figcaption class=\"css-5soref\">\n<div class=\"audioFigureHeading\">\n<h3 class=\"css-71086k\">Listen to the Interview With Dr. Ellen Wiebe<\/h3>\n<p><span class=\"css-xhi848\">The doctor, who has performed hundreds of medical aid in dying (or MAID) procedures, discusses what constitutes a good death.<\/span><\/div>\n<\/figcaption><div class=\"css-1ijhom3\">\n<div><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/figure>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"css-s99gbd StoryBodyCompanionColumn\" data-testid=\"companionColumn-1\">\n<div class=\"css-53u6y8\">\n<p class=\"css-798hid etfikam0\"><strong class=\"css-8qgvsz ebyp5n10\">Subscribe: <\/strong><strong class=\"css-8qgvsz ebyp5n10\"><a class=\"css-yywogo\" href=\"https:\/\/podcasts.apple.com\/us\/podcast\/the-interview\/id1624946521\" title rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Apple Podcasts<\/a><\/strong><strong class=\"css-8qgvsz ebyp5n10\"> | <\/strong><strong class=\"css-8qgvsz ebyp5n10\"><a class=\"css-yywogo\" href=\"https:\/\/open.spotify.com\/show\/7cDVEBbn8tM4vCEFM4TFA2?si=ccb3bbaadb75485f\" title rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Spotify<\/a><\/strong><strong class=\"css-8qgvsz ebyp5n10\"> | <\/strong><strong class=\"css-8qgvsz ebyp5n10\"><a class=\"css-yywogo\" href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/playlist?list=PLdMrbgYfVl-s5c4ug8qDCNmdmSKPvr-Pi\" title rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">YouTube<\/a><\/strong><strong class=\"css-8qgvsz ebyp5n10\"> | <\/strong><strong class=\"css-8qgvsz ebyp5n10\"><a class=\"css-yywogo\" href=\"https:\/\/music.amazon.com\/podcasts\/3c7db6c5-3de8-4bf0-b8b4-c540dc623cb7\/the-interview\" title rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Amazon<\/a><\/strong><strong class=\"css-8qgvsz ebyp5n10\"> | <\/strong><strong class=\"css-8qgvsz ebyp5n10\"><a class=\"css-yywogo\" href=\"https:\/\/www.iheart.com\/podcast\/326-the-interview-97152890\/\" title rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">iHeart<\/a><\/strong><strong class=\"css-8qgvsz ebyp5n10\"> | <\/strong><strong class=\"css-8qgvsz ebyp5n10\"><a class=\"css-yywogo\" href=\"https:\/\/www.nytimes.com\/audio\/app\/syndicated\/audio-app-show-the-interview\" title>NYT Audio App<\/a><\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"css-at9mc1 evys1bk0\"><strong class=\"css-8qgvsz ebyp5n10\">Dr. Wiebe, I want to tell you upfront: My mom died from MAID in June in Ontario. That\u2019s part of why I\u2019m talking to you today. Also, I apologize in advance if I get emotional during this conversation. <\/strong>There\u2019s no easy way to say goodbye to your mother.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div data-testid=\"Dropzone-3\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"css-s99gbd StoryBodyCompanionColumn\" data-testid=\"companionColumn-2\">\n<div class=\"css-53u6y8\">\n<p class=\"css-at9mc1 evys1bk0\"><strong class=\"css-8qgvsz ebyp5n10\">I assume that plenty of doctors support MAID, but I don\u2019t know how many would want to be MAID providers. What distinguishes you from other doctors? <\/strong>Well, human rights has been a major focus of my life. My other practice is abortion, and again, it has to do with people\u2019s rights over their own lives, their own bodies. I feel honored that people trust me to help them through these difficult things that they\u2019re going through and that I can hand them that autonomy that they\u2019ve lost.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-at9mc1 evys1bk0\"><strong class=\"css-8qgvsz ebyp5n10\">As you\u2019re aware, there are all sorts of different criticisms around medical assistance in dying. 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She had A.L.S., so she was suffering in many ways, and her choice to die in this manner felt right. Probably because it felt that way, in the time leading up to her death I didn\u2019t have many unanswered questions about MAID. I knew it was legal nationwide in Canada, where I\u2019m from and where my mom lived. (There it\u2019s called medical assistance in dying, and unlike in the United States, patients can apply for it when their disease is nonterminal, as long as they have a \u201cgrievous and irremediable medical condition.\u201d) I was also aware that in the United States MAID was legal in only 10 states and the District of Columbia. That\u2019s pretty much what I knew, and that was enough.That is, until a fellow journalist friend of mine sent me an article about Ellen Wiebe, a MAID provider in British Columbia. The friend suggested that Wiebe might make a good interview subject for me. It was an astute (and somewhat provocative) idea. Wiebe, who is 72 and has also been a longtime abortion provider, has performed hundreds of MAID procedures and is one of Canada\u2019s most prominent advocates for the practice. As I looked into her more, I realized that, actually, I did have questions \u2014 medical, legal and philosophical \u2014 about when doctors help people to die, and also about how MAID might shape our thinking on what, exactly, constitutes a good death.Listen to the Interview With Dr. Ellen WiebeThe doctor, who has performed hundreds of medical aid in dying (or MAID) procedures, discusses what constitutes a good death.Subscribe: Apple Podcasts | Spotify | YouTube | Amazon | iHeart | NYT Audio AppDr. Wiebe, I want to tell you upfront: My mom died from MAID in June in Ontario. That\u2019s part of why I\u2019m talking to you today. Also, I apologize in advance if I get emotional during this conversation. There\u2019s no easy way to say goodbye to your mother.I assume that plenty of doctors support MAID, but I don\u2019t know how many would want to be MAID providers. What distinguishes you from other doctors? Well, human rights has been a major focus of my life. My other practice is abortion, and again, it has to do with people\u2019s rights over their own lives, their own bodies. I feel honored that people trust me to help them through these difficult things that they\u2019re going through and that I can hand them that autonomy that they\u2019ve lost.As you\u2019re aware, there are all sorts of different criticisms around medical assistance in dying. There\u2019s the slippery slope argument: If we allow people to do this \u2014 everybody\u2019s going to want to die.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":16633,"comment_status":"close","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[4],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-16631","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-lifestyle"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/medexperts.pro\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/16631","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/medexperts.pro\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/medexperts.pro\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/medexperts.pro\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/medexperts.pro\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=16631"}],"version-history":[{"count":2,"href":"https:\/\/medexperts.pro\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/16631\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":16634,"href":"https:\/\/medexperts.pro\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/16631\/revisions\/16634"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/medexperts.pro\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/media\/16633"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/medexperts.pro\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=16631"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/medexperts.pro\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=16631"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/medexperts.pro\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=16631"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}